7 June 2017
Thank you for being candid and helping me to understand your feelings. And thank you for asking the question, “Do I sustain my priesthood leaders?”
A week or so ago, Vivienne and I attended a middle school play of “Fiddler on the Roof.” Our grandson was the tailor :) We heard again, although pretty amateurish, Tevye and Golda sing “Do you love me?” It is a delight to see how, in their reflective mood, they discover they really do love each other even though they had seldom, if ever, expressed it.
I think sometimes our sustaining of leaders is like that. We have a way of overlooking the faults and weaknesses of leaders and realize our life was full of sustaining Church leaders because we love and sustain God.
So do you sustain your leaders? I encourage you to answer these questions:
If your bishop or one of his counselors asked you to speak in sacrament meeting, would you accept?
If you were not in a stake calling and your bishop or one of his counselors asked you to teach a Sunday School or Primary class, would you accept?
If your bishop or one of his counselors asked you to take a meal to a sister who just had a baby, would you do it?
If your bishop or one of his counselors asked you to help financially support yet another missionary because his family couldn’t afford to fully support him, would you contribute?
If your bishop or one of his counselors asked you to participate in a community service project, would you go?
I can’t imagine you couldn’t answer yes to all of the questions above. Your are that good and that faithful.
You would do it NOT because they're amazing, wonderful men in the bishopric, but because you know and love the Lord…and you believe He directs this Church through prophets and priesthood leaders. So while local leaders (and sometimes even general Church leaders) may make mistakes, you trust that the Lord will “fix” their errors (“stand behind them”) over time. In my years in the Church, I have noticed He does that in a number of ways: (1) the leaders are released; (2) the Lord brings to their attention the error of their ways; (3) the Lord softens the hearts of those who were offended or harmed by their decisions and turns the wrong into a right….often a valuable life lesson that becomes a blessing in the life of that person; (4) He brings healing, if not resolution, over time. I’m sure there are other ways, too.
I hope this is helpful. Please consider renewing your recommend right away. In my opinion, you sustain your leaders…and therefore, should not go a day without that cherished temple recommend!
Crismon
6 June 2017
Thank you.
Therefore, can you not in good conscience answer the temple recommend question that you do sustain local priesthood leaders? In other words, you do sustain your leaders…you don’t agree with them 100% of the time and you;re confused sometimes by their choices or even their words (maybe even teachings), but you still can raise your hand in a sustaining vote because you know this is the Lord’s true Church and, whether or not we like them or agree with them, the local priesthood leaders are His representatives in that true Church, even though they may be weak, mistake-prone, insensitive, and maybe even misguided at times. But still they are His representatives and you trust that, in the end, the Lord will stand behind those leaders and resolve all unresolved challenges and even the mistakes that they may have created in your life.
In my opinion you sustain your local priesthood leaders, even though you have concerns and questions. Therefore, my recommendation is that we move forward on a temple recommend renewal and take it out of the equation and discussion so you aren’t feeling pressure or worrisome that you may say or do something that could deny you a recommend, which you cherish very much.
Once your temple recommend has been renewed, then let’s schedule in July or maybe even later, if you think time would help bring healing in the matter, when the three of us (as you suggested) can sit down and discuss this further. Of course, if you prefer to address this sooner to bring peace sooner, then we can meet as soon as you’re available and Bishop Miller has returned.
Would that be OK?
Thanks for considering,
PrL
I guess I felt reflective and was trying to be honest with my feelings in the temple recommend interview which was probably not the case at ward conference. Sustained them in ward conference more out of habit I suppose without thinking about how I really felt. It certainly feels in my heart like I am struggling with sustaining my local leaders. Really what does that entail? What does it look like? You have shared some things that maybe it is not..agreeing with them, may not personally like them etc which is helpful. I do trust that the Lord will resolve mistakes that they may have created in my life, but what do you mean when you say “the Lord will stand behind those leaders”? What does sustaining someone truly look like?
I do feel I need to be able to attend the temple. I do cherish that privilege, but I am certainly not going to try and justify my feelings to be able to do so. Maybe a clearer understanding of what it means to "sustain" would be helpful. I haven’t done much in the way of studying that on my own yet as I really only recently started questioning my honesty with the question. It has not ever been a question of doubt for me before.
Much thanks,
Sister (Name)
5 June 2017
Sister (name),
Thank you for getting back to me.
When does your current temple recommend expire?
Are you willing to meet with me, Bishop (name) and (husband) upon the Bishop’s return in mid-June or do you feel you need more time to work this though in your own mind and heart?
If the former (meet with us), have you given consideration what we might do or say that would help lessen your pain?
If the latter (more time), do you have any feeling as to how long that might take?
Please know how deeply we feel over the feelings we’ve unwittingly and unintentionally caused in your heart. You were the “victim,” yet you continue to suffer, for which we sorrow greatly. We had no idea it would cause such feelings in your heart. I don’t know if anything would have been done differently had we known, but hopefully we would have tried to better address your feelings before moving forward. For such insensitivity on our part, we beg your forgiveness.
We would welcome any thoughts on what we might do at this point to bring peace to your heart.
As I’ve expressed earlier, we feel correct procedures were taken in (husband)’s case and I know the Bishop tried very much to follow the Spirit in how to put your husband on the path to full and complete repentance. For clarification, in my opinion, the role of priesthood leaders is not to declare he is forgiven, but to put him on the path of repentance (after a sincere demonstration of a changing heart) so he can ultimately enjoy peace and joy again as he works to restore trust with you and the Lord. If we failed in this, again please forgive us. But we REALLY tried to do what is right and in the right way.
Priesthood leaders are not infallible, as you know. All we can do is do our very best to be in tune and follow the promptings we receive. Sometimes we don’t receive strong, compelling direction from the Lord. We then listen for the subtle manifestations of peace; I call it a “settled feeling” among those on the council after sincere and deep deliberation and prayer.
After all of that, we must rely on the Lord to either validate our action through the resultant “fruit” in the life of the person repenting or to have presented to us evidence from the Lord or others that we made a mistake and must correct our mistake, including possibly revisiting the decision. The latter has not happened in (husband)’s case, as far as I know.
If you have additional evidence that (husband) is truly not walking the path to complete repentance, then it wold be good for all of us to visit, as you suggested. But it does mean you must decide if it is proper for you to place yourself in a position of being his judge, which carries a heavy responsibility, even burden, whenever any of us choose—or are placed in a position--to judge another.
From our perspective, we plead with you that you not seek to judge him (as to whether he’s repenting at the pace or in the ways you feel is needed), but help him. He needs your help. His ward calling, access to the Holy Ghost, the temple, his personal scripture study and prayer, and the family’s forgiveness are all “tools” the Lord uses to help bring about the change of heart that (husband) desires and needs to be trusted again by you, priesthood leaders and the Lord.
It is important to me that we resolve this, if possible, soon so (1) you can feel joy and peace again in your marriage and family, and (2) so you can continue to be the role model for the young women in our stake by holding a current temple recommend.
I look forward to receiving answers to the above questions and your counsel as to how we proceed from here.
Gratefully,
President Lewis
P.S. I sincerely hope I have not said anything above that is offensive or insensitive. I suppose you and I have had this conversation before. And it seems we’re at some type of impasse. I really do want to help you feel peace again and welcome your thoughts on what we might do to resolve this.
President Lewis
I am glad he called someone. His demeanor indicated that he was issuing something that he felt uncomfortable doing. I told him it would be okay with me to wait until he talked to someone, however he ultimately went ahead and issued it. Honestly, I wouldn’t have known what to do either.
I am sure that he indicated that I was struggling with sustaining my local authorities. That answer will not change as I am figuring out how to resolve that in my heart when I have been so deeply hurt (unintentionally I realize) by those involved in Ralph’s disciplinary counsel.
Yes, it would be more comfortable for you to conduct my temple recommend interview, however if issues of my feelings need to be resolved before one is issued, I am not prepared to do that at this time. For that I will probably need to meet together with (husband), you and Bishop Miller when I am ready or allow enough time to pass and through continued prayer hope that the pain will lesson. If we can conclude the temple recommend interview process without discussing the disciplinary issues, than I can meet on Thursday evening or Sunday after church, otherwise it will be July before I can schedule something.
Sister (Name)
Sister (name),
I visited with briefly with (bishop's counselor) and he wasn’t real sure what to do when he conducted his interview with you for your temple recommend renewal. I’m glad he signed it.
Would you not mind meeting with me for an interview to complete your recommend?
I’ll do my best to accommodate your schedule. You can either respond to this email with a couple of days/times that work for you or schedule though Brother Allen.
Thanks,
Pres Lewis